Discussion in 'Butler Basketball' started by ButlerProf, Apr 3, 2019.
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I think he has done a great j0b and am happy to see this.
IMO, not a problem. He more than deserves it for the job he has done.
Without more information, it's tough to evaluate his choices specifically vs. decisions where the president/board, etc. is tying his hands. Overall, it's hard to say he doesn't deserve to be on the job as long as he wants it. It's rare for a school to ever be able to change its level of competition. Butler has, and he's been a big part of it.
On the other hand, and especially considering he oversees a diverse department of an educational institution, I could certainly go without the eagerness to associate with the xenophobic VP and the twitter favoriting of right wing garbage, but that's just me.
Can"t we keep politics out of this discussion?
Awwwwwwwwwwww, is someone triggered?
I suppose I am generally bothered when people dislike other humans because they think their religion says they should, and not because of something they’ve done, particularly when that person is an elected official in a constitutionally secular state. And yes, I’d prefer people who represent Butler to feel the same.
As hard as I try, I guess I’ll never be as tough as THE enforcer.
Tell Barry that.
If Jordan can't right this ship though in another year or two, I think it's time for the program to pony up and land a proven head coach though (Matta, Alford, etc.).
What would qualify Alford as “proven”??? Jeez, what a horrible take.
Division 1 record of 509-269 (.654), oh, but most of those were at MoSt & NM, right...no. High major record 276-169 (.620).
I'm not a big fan of Steve Alford's coaching, but to call him unproven is uneducated. If you're looking for 30 win seasons, that coach left for the Celtics years ago.
Only took seven posts to de-rail the thread. Butler as a school would be years behind without Barry and the success of the basketball team. Everybody on campus should kiss their feet for all of those new buildings.
Also undefeated in covering up rapes.
Theoretically if Barry were to complete his new contract, how old would he be at the end?
I'll buy Matta, but I'll pass on Alford. Matta's high major record: 337-123 (.733), conference 150-78 (.658); Alford's high major conference record was 116-102 (.532), and he padded his record in a very mediocre Pac-12. Since 04-05 (Matta's first season at OSU), Alford has 9 NCAA appearances (in 15 seasons) with 3 Sweet 16's. Matta has 9 appearances (in 13 seasons), with 1 runner-up, another Final Four, an Elite Eight, and 2 Sweet 16's. So Alford made it past the first weekend 33% of the time, and Thad did it 56% of the time. During that same time period, Butler had 10 NCAA appearances with 4 different coaches, with 2 runner-ups (Stevens) and 3 Sweet 16's (Lickliter, Stevens, Holtmann), all with a fraction of the budget of either school. Given the resources that UCLA threw at him and the basketball program, it is pretty easy to say that the on-court product didn't live up to the hype. Alford is a great recruiter, but is average at best with translating those results into W's.
Or alternatively you could grow-up................
Really? You're giving a pass on that?? In what world do you live in, that all of that is ok??
Perhaps one day I will mature and care less about humans who aren't like me.
I simply dislike all humans the same. I have no basis, just hate people.
Perhaps one day you will mature and realize that distilling politics into a simple, comic book, good vs. evil format isn't something thoughtful adults do.
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