Big East Conversation

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  1. ConnersvilleBulldog

    ConnersvilleBulldog Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Kamar (59%) beat Naji Marshall (41%) to advance to the Elite Eight. He will face off against Sam Hauser in the next round.
     
  2. Irishdawg

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    Really solid podcast previewing the league, but a little junk on recruiting to begin (Big East talk begins at 16:40):
     
  3. #60

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    I archived the Crossroads Classic 2012—Butler vs. IU game years ago & watched it in its entirety last night after years of not seeing it. The commercials were programmed out but, for some reason, I kept the in-studio halftime banter.

    In this re-watching, I initially wondered I why I had kept a conversation about basketball between Tim Brando, Doug Gottlieb & Seth Davis. After viewing the commentary’s first couple of minutes I realized why I hadn’t deleted this too.

    That December's game happened just as the “Catholic Seven” were announcing their independence. Everything was in flux. None of the 3 in-studio "experts" thought that this reconstituted conference (no one at that time was sure that this new league would retain the “Big East” name) would succeed.

    Gottlieb was the biggest detractor. The boy had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING positive to say—to even guesstimate—vis-á-vis this new conference’s chances. All prosperity was tied to big football. Only to big football.

    I’m not trying to say that I or anyone I know was Nostradamus, Jr. & foresaw the league’s success with absolute clarity. I was very skeptical—& hopeful. I did see a potential upside to the move; but not these 3. (Brando was the least “crash & burn” of the trio.)

    Gottlieb said that maybe Georgetown could salvage its reputation in this pseudo-conference. Absolutely no mention of Villanova. He said that the unnamed league could likely pick up 3 from the quartet of BU, Xavier, Dayton & Saint Louis. But the prospects were bleak. In his opinion, it was sad to see the once-respected Big East reduced to history’s dung heap (not these words, but this intent).

    It’s interesting to now look at this “basketball first” incarnation of the Big East—major network endorsement, nearly all the conference’s games receiving national broadcasting (even if this is on the Fox affiliates or such), a perennial national powerhouse (one NOT named “Georgetown”) having won 2 national championships, etc.—& reflect on what was said about the league’s prospects in its inception.
     
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  4. bumba

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    Until a BE school not named Villanova starts consistently getting to the Final Four, I wouldn't anticipate much respect from the National media.
     
  5. ConnersvilleBulldog

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  6. Irishdawg

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    Wonder if it was about the kind of shots he was taking...
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    In all seriousness, this is definitely a blow to Georgetown, at the very least from a depth standpoint.
     
  7. Insane Dawg

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    Wasn't his dad a bit of a troublesome guy?
     
  8. bumba

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    Wow! Rothstein’s Twitter following has reached new heights.


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  10. MilkSteak

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    Agreed. He would've been one of the first guys off of the bench for Georgetown at the very least.

    I've always seen this Georgetown squad as a "BET Wednesday team." This certainly doesn't help.
     
  11. iluvsnow

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    Breaking: Mustapha Heron has been cleared to play at @StJohnsBBall this season after getting an NCAA waiver, source tells me The school will announce it Tuesday. Huge new for Chris Mullin’s crew as they get Heron and return @ShamorieP To a strong lineup.

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  12. thebulldogs

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  13. MilkSteak

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    Huge news. And obviously this instantly makes St. John's better.

    Still think this St. John's team will get absolutely murdered on the glass this year. Mullin's coaching is also suspect, and he hasn't established a winning culture. For those reasons, I'm not putting them on the right side of the bubble. I do think they are a NIT squad though.
     
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  14. Irishdawg

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    October 25th
     
  15. MilkSteak

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  16. MSUDawg

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    Agree they likely win. But "again" suggests a repeat. Didn't X win the BE last year?

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  17. ArizonaXU

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    Yes, but we have beat Villanova once in any competition since joining. We are their ***** right now.


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  18. the_speakers_lab

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  19. bmradio99

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    We knew this was coming, but the official announcement of the Big East - Big 12 series thing is here: https://www.bigeast.com/news/2018/1...ual-10-game-series-will-start-in-2019-20.aspx

    No announcement of a Butler opponent, but in the first five games mentioned for next year (Kansas State at Marquette on Dec. 1, Villanova at Kansas on Dec. 15, Creighton at Oklahoma on Dec. 18, and Providence at Texas on Dec. 21) only one of them is a home game for the Big East school, so 4 out of the 5 of Butler, Georgetown, Xavier, DePaul, and Seton Hall gets a home game. With Butler having a visit from Florida already slated for the home non-con slate, I would anticipate BU going on the road to start, but we'll see. Otherwise that could be a pretty stacked schedule at Hinkle next year. Potential opponents are down to Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, or Iowa State.
     
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  20. godogs91

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    Unless I'm reading the release incorrectly, those games are already on this year's schedule, so 3 of them will have home games as the return for the 2019-20 season ('Nova, Creighton, Providence). That means that only 2 more teams will get home games that first season.
    Looking forward to the matchups. Would love to see Baylor make a visit to Hinkle. I can imagine that a number of folks looking forward to Scott Drew making an appearance back at his alma mater.
     
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