Discussion in 'Around the League' started by gmoser1210, Sep 5, 2013.
Not sure whether to put this in Around the Big East or Recruiting because it relates to both. Summary of 2020/2021 recruiting for all Big East teams.
If this chart is close to being accurate (a big caveat), there are a lot of interesting things to learn from it. Here are a few observations.
Butler is on the low end in terms of number of offers it makes. For 2020, it had the third fewest behind Nova (5) and Creighton (20). There are some crazy high numbers on the other end of the spectrum: St. John's (44), Hall and X (47), Marquette (48), Georgetown (57) and DePaul (60). Notably, even though Butler was at the low end, we had the second highest number of commitments (5 vs. 6 for Georgetown, which has had to totally reload). We complain a lot when an offeree cuts us from his list or commits to someone else, but that happened less to us with the 2020 class than it did to anyone other than Nova (5 offers, no signees yet). Lavall is stingy on his offers, but he has a great closing rate. Obviously, different coaches have different philosophies about giving out offers.
Some of the numbers for the 2021 class are pretty insane: St. John's already has given out 47 offers, DePaul, 51, and Georgetown and X, 60 each, with more certainly to come. Butler has given out only 12 offers and already has 2 commits. The entire rest of the conference has only four 2021 commits.
Is Butler's closing rate so good because it is "settling" for lower-skilled players? No. 2020 class commits: Butler's class of 3 4-stars and 2 3-stars stacks up well against the rest of the conference. The only others that would be close are UConn (3 4-stars), Creighton (2 4-stars and 1 3-star), Marquette (3 4-stars, 1 NR), and X (3 4-stars). (Nova has no commits yet.)
Butler has been stingy on offers for years unlike Xavier which always makes an incredible number of offers. Not sure why the different recruiting strategies.
If Xavier rated their offers 1 thru 60 and they only had three slots available; I wonder what they would do if numbers 58, 59 & 60 all said they were committing.
This is huge for Marquette and extremely aggravating since we can get one for our guy (if we even tried...which is suspect).
Interesting. I’m somewhat surprised that Creighton is second with wins.
I think someone is happy to be back.
Obviously I don't pay much attention to DePaul's athletics, but I do remember a negative lawsuit was filed against them. It went something along the lines of the AD's brother(?) was the softball(?) coach and the players filed a suit alleging abuse within the program. Clearly, not a good look, but I wasn't aware she had been fired.
Anyways, from a DePaul basketball standpoint, I'm sure their alumni are thrilled bc they hated her. (Like gofundme for a full page ad in the Tribune and college newspaper hate) I don't know Leitao's contract details, but lack of funds due to Covid might be the only thing restricting the new boss from replacing him right away. I don't think a new AD will suddenly turn them into a powerhouse, but having an AD that cares about winning isn't a bad way to start.
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