Cooper Neese - 2017 Shooting Guard (Indiana State)

Discussion in 'Recruiting Archive' started by Jared Grubbs, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. seadawg

    seadawg Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    No malice toward ISU or CN but he is rapidly becoming the most revered quitter in BU basketball history.
     
  2. Insane Dawg

    Insane Dawg Well-Known Member

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    I don't see it that way.
     
  3. Title

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    It’s not bad that he recognized his level and transferred accordingly. That’s a far better resolution than the alternative
     
  4. halftime_floor_sweeper

    halftime_floor_sweeper Well-Known Member

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    Yes recognizing "levels"could be important. Buy a mirror.
     
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  5. ButlerAlumDad716

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    Though this thread has gone slightly off topic - There was an article in the last few days in a Louisville newspaper discussing the maturity of one of their freshman with a year of Prep School (though he had a 3.7 gpa in high school). The player discussed was a teammate of CD last year.
     
  6. dawgs2014

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    I think he did start questioning it after Holt left, but not *because* Holt left. My interpretation of what I know sounds like a freshman doing freshman things, then getting overwhelmed by the consequences of those freshman things.

    As a normal student, you are afforded time to make those mistakes, as an athlete, it’s much more difficult. I am sure it could have been worked out, but it wasn’t. I wouldn’t read too much into anything here though I do think Neese would have helped us quite a bit in the future.


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  7. seadawg

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    For what it's worth, I was told he was struggling on the academic side of things.
     
  8. Red1972

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    Neese played twenty six minutes yesterday, scored three points, three turnover. Can someone explain how he is eligible this semester at ISU? He was enrolled in summer
    school, traveled to Europe, bailed on Butler in October, now playing at ISU.
     
  9. halftime_floor_sweeper

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    That isn't correct, he isn't listed in the box score:

    http://ballstatesports.com/documents/2017/11/25//Game6_Box.pdf
     
  10. bu2013

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  11. Albick

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    Neese is listed in the box score on Kenpom but not in the box scores on the Ball State and Indiana State sites. This obviously is an error by STATS, LLC, which provides the stats for Kenpom. (Kenpom shows the game MVP as Daniel Huenermann, who, it says, scored 18 points. According to both the Ball State and Indiana State sites, Huenermann never played in the game.)
     
  12. bobbu64

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    Could care less about Neese. He wasted much time here. Good Luck, Good Bye, Dilly Dilly.
     
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  13. Daddysmack

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    Love the Dilly Dilly at the end, but I wish Neese nothing but the best ....seems like a good kid, just not a good fit for him. We forget that these are kids taking classes and getting an education.....he may have found that he didn't fit academically, who knows. All he did was try to find the right fit for him. Unlike Young who left for Holtman and the staff.

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  14. bobbu64

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    Nicely put.
     
  15. seadawg

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    For those who give a rat's a$$, rumor has it CN will major in table games and pursue a minor in underwater basket weaving at ISU.
     
  16. dawgs2014

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    So this raises an issue that I’ve always wondered how Kenpom has navigated and it sounds like he doesn’t.
    If you scour college basketball play by play data, you’ll find there are TONS of mistakes. Players will be put into games with no one coming out, players will be taken out with no one to replace them, there will be a player who incorrectly gets listed as a sub so they get subbed out before time runs off the clock.....
    What I think the likely explanation here is that Neese was accidentally selected to go into the game by the play by play data KP uses, and then either not subbed out, or subbed out in a manner that didn’t fit within KP’s data aggregation methodologies.


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  17. shoeevv

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    Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard anything about how Neese is doing at ISU this pre-season?
     
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  18. Daddysmack

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    Last I heard he was in the same situation as Jordan Tucker. Not available until the second semester. They applied for a waiver but heard it was denied. I wish him the best and this is unfortunate. I look forward to following him on hopefully a great career
     
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  19. bumba

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  20. Ster8462

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    Cooper starts off his ISU career with a 1-7 night shooting in a 20 point loss to TCU
     

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