Federal documents detail NCAA violations

Discussion in 'Around the League' started by Mark Shelvin, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. Insane Dawg

    Insane Dawg Well-Known Member

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    Too easy to cheat and even if caught there are no significant penalties. So the school vacates a championship. Big deal. So Pitino loses his job. Big deal. He's worth millions and millions. Do you think Saban will go clean after making $8 million a year? All Calipari has to say to an AAU coach or donor is I really like that kid. Love for him to come to Kentucky. The donor pays the AAU guy who passes part of it to the family. How does the NCAA, even if they wanted to which is doubtful, investigate the under the table bribes and fight the university attorneys? North Carolina used law firms to beat the NCAA on their bogus classes. These universities, administrators, coaches and athletic directors make millions either doing crooked things or looking the other way. Basketball is way way too important to Kentucky and the NCAA to anyone in power to do the right thing. Without basketball no one would think twice about Kentucky. Ditto for UCLA or Wichita State.
     
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  2. Insane Dawg

    Insane Dawg Well-Known Member

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    That's assuming that school is really serious about cleaning up their program. Has that ever happened?
     
  3. RegionTownDawg

    RegionTownDawg Member

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    Yes, most future pros choose to go to college instead of G-League or overseas because it's a better financial and overall decision for them. But let's not call this a free and open market where the players are receiving what the market is willing to pay. It's an incredibly heavily regulated market, with the NCAA banning wages and the NBA restricting labor supply. If it were truly fair and open, we'd see lots of schools paying players lots of money in these sports-- and we know this is true because some schools are ALREADY paying players in violation of the rules.

    Again, I'm not trying to argue that free tuition, training, and exposure that the players get isn't a great benefit for them-- I just think the system unfairly caps what they would stand to earn otherwise.
     
  4. SpartanDawgs

    SpartanDawgs Well-Known Member

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    LaVall isn't leaving unless its for a pro team like Stevens. Its that simple and is also why it was a good hire.
     
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  5. MSUDawg

    MSUDawg Well-Known Member

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    The budget is starting to look healthy, with Boltmann's buyout and the prior tournament revenues starting to come in, plus some healthy box office numbers along with the TV funds, we should be able to keep LaVall around
    a long time given his view of Butler. I also expect another good year for the BE in tournament revenue coming up - it is looking more and more like a destination job for those who value something besides one and done.
     
  6. OldSchoolDawg1983

    OldSchoolDawg1983 Active Member VIP Member

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    If he actually made the statement you believe he made, I am concerned.
     
  7. WestLoopDog

    WestLoopDog Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    “Yes” to everything you said, but none of this carries as much weight when Beilein decides to retire. That is the opportunity I worry about.


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  8. MSUDawg

    MSUDawg Well-Known Member

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    I guess we have to wait and see what is in LaVall's psyche... I believe he's a long term guy, but you could be right...
     
  9. fdr

    fdr Well-Known Member

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    For the nth time, the one-and-done rule was instituted by the NBA. The NCAA can't just "do away with it" like some here have proposed. The NBA has no incentive to get rid of it. And even if they did want to change it, I don't think they could do anything until the current CBA ends, which won't occur until 2023, at the earliest.
     
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  10. WestLoopDog

    WestLoopDog Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I hope my worries are totally unfounded and it’s never an issue


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  11. gmoser1210

    gmoser1210 Well-Known Member

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    Plus, his twin sister goes to Butler and he won’t leave her behind. They used to play doubles tennis together.
     
  12. ButlerNut

    ButlerNut Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I wonder how many people get this reference.

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  13. seadawg

    seadawg Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    At least 1.
     
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  14. mwall787

    mwall787 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...cause-of-a-road-trip-with-his-father-in-1996/

    Coaching turnover is the engine of college sports, and Butler has cycled through a lot of successful coaches in the past 15 years. But Jordan seems set on sticking at Butler for a good while. This is in part because he made a vow to his three daughters. The oldest is sick of moving and is fed up with having to go to a new school and making new friends. Jordan has gone from Iowa to Michigan to Milwaukee to Butler since his oldest has been in school.

    "But I had to explain to her how this one would be different," Jordan said. "'We're not going to be going anywhere for a long, long time. You're going to be graduating high school in Indianapolis. You don't understand it right now, but this is going to be it.'"

    Thats the word for word quote from Val. Also, Val's oldest daughter Ava was 12 in June when he was hired.
     
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  15. ButlerAlumDad716

    ButlerAlumDad716 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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  16. Grandpa Bulldog

    Grandpa Bulldog Member

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  17. OldSchoolDawg1983

    OldSchoolDawg1983 Active Member VIP Member

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    thank you
     
  18. troggy

    troggy Well-Known Member

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    What do you propose as a solution?
     
  19. troggy

    troggy Well-Known Member

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    Or Butler?
     
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  20. kmacker69

    kmacker69 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    4 and I really like the quote from that article! Don't know how I missed that one?
     

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