Game Thread: Butler at Penn State (11/14)

Gonna be another rough year

 

Well, I guess it's good that my +6 bet pushed, but that was pretty rough to watch in the second half.

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Bates is going to be good all year. As simple as it sounds, team success will simply come down to being an average shooting team from outside. Just have to hope the guys out right now are able to help immediately.

 

We had the right ideas in the second half (run through Manny, attack the rim, better ball movement and looks), but execution was lacking. Team still has a lot of growing to do. It’s going to take some time, but the goal early on is to learn, progress, and stay healthy. The shooting should come, we just can’t let it affect us mentally which I felt like it did today at times.

 

You are right; something is off there. He was much more explosive in his movements last year.


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Last year, I feel Butler falls apart and loses by 20. Thad has them on the right track.

 

Down 66 - 62 and Chuck on a semi-break leads to a breakaway dunk for them...game.

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How do you think we played tonight?

 

Harris looks like he's lost confidence. He needs to keep shooting.

 

Something going on in JT’s head. That was just an atrocious showing from him. Also, when you’re 1-12 from the field, don’t force 2 garbage shots up 2 with all the momentum on your side. Onward

 

Can’t have Hunter impersonating AT anymore either.

 

I actually yelled no out loud when Manny hit the deck and came up wincing. At this point I’d rather lose a game than lose Bates. There was some “last season” ugliness in spots, but Thad will clean that up. We hung in and fought back and didn’t lose by 30. Lots to learn from this one.


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I think it has a lot to do with Taylor was obviously off since the beginning. Before the FTA, he was like 2/11 with some wild fadeaways, one legged shots, and going 1 on 3 on fast breaks. He cushioned his stats down the road with getting fouled away from the basket.

Harris was too quiet at the beginning due to foul trouble. Towards the end he forced several shots/drives in a row but that was by necessity— I don’t think he played well either and you can’t rely on refs to call fouls to bail you out, have to go strong and expect to make the basket.

Hunter was just as bad but it was more spread out throughout the whole game.

Luko had a rough start 1/5 on 3s within the first 10 minutes but finished strong going 2/3 and played pretty good D.

None of the guards should get a pass but Taylor seemed to be the one to force it the most where I feel like we could have gotten better shots.


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I think Taylor is a solid player, but know when to change the script and be useful out there. No hate, just not your night kid.

 

PSU made 34 3s in its first 2 games. They hit 10 against Butler. I actually think that’s a pretty “good” defensive showing by Butler. If we shoot 30% from 3 or get those 3 turnovers from Chuck back, we win this game.

We hopefully won’t see another piss poor shooting game like this again but I liked our effort and gameplan. Didn’t like some of our shots but have to live with some if we want to play fast. Remember we are down 3 starting-quality players and this was a winnable game down the stretch. It hurts but I’m glad we didn’t throw the towel in down 16. Defense usually takes the longest to tune up and other than 5 or 6 delayed switches, we did good.

Oh and Manny F’n Bates.


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Overall I just wanted the win so badly

Ha I’m guessing you all did as well


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It's amazing how bad offense leads to poor defense. BU had roughly a 10 minute segment where they reverted back to the stand and watch offense. Overall BU played OK, but when you shoot this poorly, winning games will be difficult. This was a very winnable game. PT probably deserves more playing time.