Game Thread: Butler vs. Eastern Illinois (12/11)

At these guy’s height’s their (height) efficacy is going to be largely determined by standing reach.

Just from looking at pics (wildly unscientific) it seems Wideman had somewhat substantially longer arms.


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Not according to https://butlersports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

 

Pretty sure there is a pic of wideman and DJ doing a workout together with Joey Burton. Someone with more time (and not at work) do some digging and find it.


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But Tyler was a beast. I thought I read somewhere that Tyler set some weight room record with like 40 or 50 reps bench pressing 250 pounds


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I was wrong:

https://amp.indystar.com/amp/823116001


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The basketball team (at least when I was a student) benchmarked upper body strength with reps of 185. I could see 40 reps of 185, which would be insane.

But it couldn’t have been 250 or he’d be stronger than every player in the nfl.


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30 reps at 185 doesn't put it into context for most. Hearing that the NBA combine record is 27 reps (or was at the time of the article) tells you 30 was ridiculous!

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Okay I was wrong. It was JT and Pierce with Wideman.


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It would be cool if they measured standing reach and included it with the height and weight info.

 

It’s probably more important than actual height.


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Without question.

Draymond Green is always considered remarkably short for a great power forward because he’s only 6-5 1/2 without shoes on. His standing reach at the 2012 combine was the same as Miles Plumlee’s and Tyler Zeller’s who are 6-10 1/2 and 6-11 1/2 without shoes on. Draymond isn’t short in a way that’s meaningful for basketball.

Other ones that are crazy: Kawhi Leonard is over 5 inches shorter than Tyler Zeller and has a higher standing reach. Hassan Whiteside is four inches shorter than Isaac Haas but has a standing reach that’s a couple inches higher.

Programs should list standing reach in lieu of or at least in addition to height.


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Another thing is that Neck and head height serve no benefit whatsoever. So you can be 6’7 but if you’re mike Glennon you might functionally be 6’4.


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