Game Thread: Butler vs N.C. State (11/25) (Battle 4 Atlantis)

Discussion in 'Butler Basketball' started by NCJon, Nov 25, 2022.

  1. bmradio99

    bmradio99 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    This team folds at the slightest whiff of resistance, and it doesn’t have anything to do with depth. They can’t fking shoot. It’s that simple.


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  2. znelson15

    znelson15 Well-Known Member

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    Are guards are very flustered right now

    It also sucks bates just has to let big guys work him down low so he stays out if foul trouble

    I’d rather double down and for e the pass and make them hit the outside shot


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  3. WAJC77

    WAJC77 Well-Known Member

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    and whats with Simas?? cant even hit the rim on those little runners in the lane... no wonder he is trying to pass out when driving to the basket... I fear the concussions have spread among the entire team like Covid !!
     
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  4. butlerguy03

    butlerguy03 Well-Known Member

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    Taylor and Luko need to be driving.
     
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  5. TheDawgDub95

    TheDawgDub95 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    NM, it just continued to get worse.

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  6. Ross Hall

    Ross Hall Active Member

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    It’s now a pattern. Can’t create any kind of offense against a team with a pulse.
     
  7. readyletsgo

    readyletsgo Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I’m not sure any transfer, from Tucker to Clarke, can fix how bad this looks.
     
  8. Woof

    Woof Well-Known Member

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    It’s all mental. We’re beating ourselves. NC State isn’t playing mind blowing defense. Bizarre turnovers, ball getting stuck in one players hands, little movement, passing up good shots for harder shots.

    Our defense hasn’t been too bad in the half-court. We gave up a big chunk off of turnovers. But we’ve got to get some better looks in the second half, and get out of our own heads.
     
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  9. TheDawgDub95

    TheDawgDub95 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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  10. WAJC77

    WAJC77 Well-Known Member

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    How is it our program has no walkons .... cant just sit some starters and put in shock troops to send a message.
     
  11. TheDawgDub95

    TheDawgDub95 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Once an athletic team overplays our guards, they get flustered, out of control and just want to try to get the ball out of their hands be it a bad pass or an uncomfortable shot.

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  12. Army Dawg!!!

    Army Dawg!!! Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think butler is trying to take forced shots. We don’t have any space to shoot so they all looked forced. We have talked about it over and over. We lack speed on the perimeter, which causes turnovers and contested shots. Our guards and wings can’t create separation which means they have a hard time creating their own shots. We have good players, we don’t have great players. Not right now.
     
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  13. SCbulldogsfan4life

    SCbulldogsfan4life Well-Known Member

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    Well it could be worse. We could be Villanova.
     
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  14. znelson15

    znelson15 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I think we beat a really good byu team

    It’s matchups and Tennessee and no state have guards that can do damage l, byu did not

    Doesn’t mean we did t beat a good byu team it’s just means we are not ready to face elite guards

    Taylor is doing great( he has the job of guarding a top ten pick), luko, hunter, Harris are all kinds of flustered



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  15. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member

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    We have 5 scholarship guys hurt right now. BU is not this bad. We just haven't changed our offense to reflect who is available.
     
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  16. Woof

    Woof Well-Known Member

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    Hard to create separation when we don’t use any screens and dribble in the same place for 10 seconds!
     
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  17. Cranjis McBasketball

    Cranjis McBasketball Well-Known Member

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    9 straight point off of turnovers in 3 minute stretch. That’s the mental toughness Thad was talking about.
    Outside of those turnovers, we also also shot 3 jump shots and missed 2 layups


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  18. readyletsgo

    readyletsgo Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    This kind of wreaks of denial. Byu is not good, plus how many big east teams won’t have those kinds of guards? Georgetown and DePaul? This is going to be another long season unless the injured transfers really are game changers
     
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  19. Tentozen

    Tentozen Well-Known Member

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    They missed a lot of open looks, also.


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  20. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member

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    This. We should be using motion to beat speed. It just kind of seems like they're moving around aimlessly without purpose. No back screens. No high pick & roll to get Manny moving down the lane. That's on the staff. They're seeing the same piss poor shooting from deep that we are.
     
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