What is it with Holtmann and Co.? I get it, he has to come through with that big contract and all of the perks he and his staff have gotten, or be is gone in four or five years. The fact that he and his staff continue to bash Butler and their perceived shortcoming is mind boggling, after all Butler gave him a chance. I felt bad when Collier, Matta, Lickliter, and Stevens left, but they continued to be friends of the program, with Collier coming back as a successful AD. Holtmann is different, as a friend said he always had is eye on the next job, if not OSU it would have been someplace else next year. I for one am glad he is gone and hope he falls flat on his face, call me vindictive, but that's what it is.