Since when is Creighton any sort of model for success? They are one of the most disappointing teams of the last decade relative to talent They need to have the slightest bit of success in the tourney before I worry about falling behind. They are way behind us x and nova
I saw Steere play this spring and loved him. I didn't understand why he didn't have HM offers. He picked up a lot since then and his ranking hasn't caught up. He will be top 100 easily. He might break Top 50. I saw CP3 play once this spring but honestly don't remember Hunter. I was watching the opponent more, so I didn't focus on him. I didn't even know who he was then to be 100% honest. So I don't have any sort of eval on him. If he's good enough for Michigan though I'll happily take him. Sent from my iPhone using Butler Hoops mobile app
Thread on one of the Michigan boards about him - http://forum.umhoops.com/t/2018-f-hunter-tyson-offer/2624/37
I completely understand Steere, but the point is that rankings prior to the July eval period are not even remotely final. Tyson is currently ranked similarly to Steere and both have some helium around their name currently. Steere will certainly end as the better recruit based on the buzz with scouting services, but Tyson may very well crack most Top150 lists as well.
Interesting Beilein doesn't offer until the recruit visits. Kind of sounds like what Stevens philosophy was. Did Kopp and Tyson visit Butler?
I saw a lot of Butler Gordon Hayward in that video. Even that right-handed layup from the left side was so reminiscent of Hayward's big one at the end of the K-State game. I see a lot to like, and think of the shooting with Neese at the 2 and this kid at the 3...
From the article posted above: "Growing up, Tyson played mostly point guard because he was much smaller, and he developed ball handling and shooting skills. When he grew 8 inches between eighth and 10th grade, those skills remained, making him difficult to defend." The parallels are sort of amazing. Clearly, not saying he's going to be an NBA all-star (and he almost certainly will not be - that's just reality). But it can give an idea as to the kind of upside a player can have when they have the skills of much a smaller player because of late growth. The article also says that his dad was 6-6 as a senior and is today 6-8. Hunter is nearly 6-8, according to the article, and just turned 17. He may top out close to 6-9.
The Hayward comparison's are apt. I would also concur that him liking Hayward surely cannot hurt our chances with him. If we can somehow land him and Hayes, we would have a lot of versatility in the years to come. Let's go LaVall and Co!
I hope Lavall and Co have a pre-existing relationship, because Michigan is the heavy favorite. Hoping the Hayward love helps at least keep us in the door and Lavall can seal the deal. At first was really skeptical of him, but the more I've read, seen, heard, this guy really is the real deal and a late bloomer. He should be easily in the top 150 more closely after his senior year I could see a top 75 player. I too love the versatility with him, potentially a Hayes and still hoping for the E Hunter, would make a salvageable recruiting class I want it, just to stick it to He who will remain Nameless...
I'm guessing Meyer at least knew him though he may or may not have been his main recruiter while he was at Michigan. Either way, can't hurt to kick the tires on this one even if it is tough to overtake the Wolverines and with Miller Kopp also as a possibility keeps at least some pressure if Butler can manage to get some visits out of both of them.
At times we tend to put too much emphasis on positions instead of body types and skill sets. Today's college offensive game is evolving, as is the pro game. Players with size that can stretch the floor are a luxury. I have no idea what the staff may be thinking as far as future needs for BU are. I'm sure they far from being finished evaluating and identifying needs. Questions like do you sacrifice offense for defense or vise-versa will answered in practice and during the season. I think we can all agree there is no substitute for talent but determining where a potential player may fit in with a given team really depends on the coaching staff's philosophy.
When I speak of talent, that is not necessarily the scouting reports or ratings of players but potential a coaching staff may envision for a particular player based over the duration of their time spent in a program over 4 years or more. BU is not a KY and the approach to recruiting has to be different. If I were to speak of the my favorite Butler players, they would be the ones I enjoyed watching develop over the course of their careers. It would be wonderful if BU could get the talented 1 and done types, but that is simply not case.
I get what you're saying, at least as it pertains to guys on the wing, but there obviously is still some focus on some positions, especially as it relates to the Center and Point Guard position.
This is a narrative that I'm getting tired of hearing. Call the players whatever the hell you want or generalize them as ball handler/shooter/big man but we are still talking about the same players. The lines between positions have blurred, but they are still there if you squint.