Isaiah Johnson-Arigu - 2024 Wing (Offered)

To host an official visit and make an implied top 5, only to have another school take our spot in a top 5. I don’t know how that can be seen as anything other than an abject failure.

 

If anything, Butler’s NIL pool will shrink because it is beyond obvious they’re never competing at this level for players or games. Why waste it.

Butler needs out of this conference. It doesn’t matter where. It could be the MVC, it could be the A10, it could be the Horizon League, it makes no difference.

It’s utterly hopeless where they are at and you won’t have 2000 a game in a few years

 

Obviously very disappointing and I’m sure NIL had a lot to do with it. It’s also possible he just doesn’t like a small campus atmosphere. All the other schools are massive with football being a big part of activities. Maybe that’s something he wanted?

Regardless though, I can’t help but see parallels between future recruits and the Jonathan Taylor fiasco. If a player thinks he is worth $100k (and schools are willing to pay) and we are only offering to pay $25k, it is going to take a hell of a lot of sweat talking for them to play for us. Not to mention we don’t really have a lot of racial/economic diversity or a “college town” that can compete. We have cool dorms, hinkle fieldhouse, and a legendary coach that hasn’t been relevant since these kids were in elementary school. That’s what we’re working with. Oh and 2 Final Fours? These recruits were around the age of 4 when that happened.


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This is pretty apocalyptic even for you. Where can we pin this?


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Showing some progress on the court will help, no question. Got a feeling this one is going to the highest bidder—likely Iowa or Miami.


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How much can fringe 100 3/4 star guys be commanding?

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It ranges, there is a #92 player in 2024 class with a valuation of $300k and a #68 player sitting at $73k. I’m guessing 50k/yr for him is a competitive rate with larger schools able to outbid each other if it’s a position they really need.

The ****ty thing is that is these young guns are getting all this $$ (say 200k over 4 years for a #100 recruit), the older players who are actually carrying the team and contributing more will want their share, and they end up leaving for greener pastures in the transfer market hoping to get some money. OSU, Baylor, Houston, Oregon and shelling 100k/yr for #50 recruits.

https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/player/basketball/2024/

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Crazy as it may seem, at least in the near and intermediate term it’s going to take a lot more than 50k/year to be competitive for most guys with several power conference options.

If this guy was commanding only 50k/year, we’d definitely be in his final five. Think more like 150.

 

We can get comparable guys for under 100k. But will definitely require getting a commitment by a rising player, keeping them committed and then developing the heck out of them. And then retaining them (NIL) if they prove themselves.


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Might just have to exclusively go after rich kids

 

McCaffrey's son mentioned NIL wasn't that big to him. We'll see.

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Haha right I’d imagine that to be the case for most high schoolers with a parent worth $25M.

 

Committed to Miami

 

It's bummer, but good for the kid. I respect his decision

 

I hope the NCAA is proud of what the NIL turned into. And they no longer have leverage to stop it. As soon the NCAA tries anything the big football schools and conferences break away from the NCAA. NIL is a runaway train with no way to stop it. Look how far this has gone since the original lawsuit. It really has turned what was supposed to be amateurism into financial bidding wars. Can’t freakin stand the current atmosphere of how NIL is impacting my interest in football and basketball which really hurts all the other sports in the end. Fans just don’t care because it’s a twoheaded monster. Big time schools bidding for players while fans betting on games. Just means diehard fans don’t care what NIL is doing as long as they get their betting wins and their favorite colleges get extra millions from tv deals.