OT: NBA

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by bumba, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I know many of you don't like/follow the NBA game, but some of us do simply because we love basketball or the (insert your favorite team here) Pacers. BU is currently slow on news with scholies filled up & no regular season so I'm curious to hear if you think Lance & LeBron will co-exist on the Lakers or if this is a trainwreck waiting to happen.

    NBA: LeBron James Gives LA Lakers Permission To Sign Lance Stephenson
    https://www.inquisitr.com/4971077/n...la-lakers-permission-to-sign-lance-stephenson
     
  2. Hinkle

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    Conspiracy theories are generally stupid, so the following probably is, too. But here's a random thought I had this week:


    How hard would it be to believe that someone is paying Boogie money under the table? He signed a one year deal for 5 million. Enes Kanter made 21 million this year. Even coming off the injury, Cousins' market had to be something close to 25 million, right? You're telling me the guy is willing to take a 20 million dollar pay cut to get a ring (not to mention the blow of CA income taxes)? Maybe, but isn't it also possible that there are people funneling him some money to soften to blow? Other than maybe the Knicks and Lakers, I'd imagine there's no fan base wealthier than GSW, and there may be no team that has a roster with as deep of pockets as GSW (e.g., Durant and Curry are two of the richest guys in the league). If you're Durant, or Curry, or a 28 year old who just sold his start up to Google for 160million, would you chip in 2 million to the Boogie fund to essentially guarantee a title next year? I would.
     
  3. ArizonaXU

    ArizonaXU New Member

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    Cousins is off of an Achilles tear. That is something that is hard to come back from in any sport basketball being the hardest. Couple that with he is 270#. His market was higher than 5.3M but it was not 25M. I would think 10-15M.


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  4. Hinkle

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    If that's the case, then it's much more understandable because he'll get the season/NBA Finals to show he's 100% and get a great contact next year that more than makes up for the cut this year. Is that true, though? I hadn't seen that the injury was projected to hurt his value so much. It's not like he's ever been a springy player, and he's not old.
     
  5. Irishdawg

    Irishdawg Super Moderator VIP Member

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    Achilles tears in general are very difficult to come back from. Pair that with it happening to a guy who was already a big, lumbering dude in a game that continues to pick up speed, and Boogie gets what he gets. He sees himself as a max player. I think New Orleans was possibly toying with the idea when he was healthy, but I think everyone is waiting to see how he comes back from this injury before committing to him for big money and long-term money. The move makes sense for him and the Warriors. Now if Houston puts Chris Paul on their 5 man, Golden State can destroy that defense, whereas this past season they struggled to beat that.

    NBA offseason is infinitely more interesting to me than the games themselves. I think if the Lakers fail to get Kawhi, or if they do get Kawhi and it turns into another Steve Nash situation where he's never the same player, it's going to be a disaster. There are literally no nights off in the West, and if Lebron is still there by himself when the season ends, they'll be lucky to get out of the first round.
     
  6. Hinkle Cellar Dweller

    Hinkle Cellar Dweller New Member

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    I thought of another angle that could derail the Lakers. Lebron generates a lot of off-court attention and stories by himself and seems to be the type of personality who wears on teammates and members of the organization over time. Pair that with Lavar Ball's circus act and I could see the young players on the Lakers imploding because of the strain from the drama.
     
  7. Insane Dawg

    Insane Dawg Well-Known Member

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    Give you all something to chew on-

    James has averaged $130,000 per day for the last 15 years. That's per day.
     
  8. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Translation: Single NBA 1st round pick & new millionaire overdoes it with sorority girls.
     
  9. fdr

    fdr Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    The Pelicans reportedly offered him 2 years at $20M per. He's a max level player when healthy. This is somewhat of a strange year for free agents, given that there are a number of prized free agents that will be hitting the market in 2019 and the slowing cap growth. Most teams are trying to create or maintain flexibility for next summer. I'm still surprised there weren't more teams willing to take a chance on him at $20-25M per for 2-4 years, which would prove to be a bargain if he returns to his former self, much like the Warriors and Steph Curry in 2012.

    I'm not even a huge fan, but Boogie is one of the best playmaking big men in the league and averaged more assists than every center not named Nikola Jokic, who might already be the best passing big man ever. He averaged 35.4% from three last year with a fairly high volume (6.1 attempts per game), especially for a center. He also led all centers in steals per game (1.6) and is an elite rebounder and scorer. I don't think the game is passing him by.

    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/11/17/demarcus-cousins-pelicans-anthony-davis-james-harden
     
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  10. fdr

    fdr Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I hate the Lakers more than any other team in the NBA, by far. Nothing would make me happier than seeing them lock up the seventh seed and fall in the first round of the playoffs.
     
  11. fdr

    fdr Well-Known Member VIP Member

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  12. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    It might take Kelan a bit longer to get his opportunity but I do think it's coming. He's at TB's level of game.

    Good for TB, he's still an Indy guy.
     
  13. Jared Grubbs

    Jared Grubbs Administrator Staff Member

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    He will probably give himself every chance to get an NBA job but I really think he just ends up having a Rotnei Clarke type career, where he goes overseas somewhere and leads the league in scoring. That will be better for him than sticking around in the D league.


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  14. Hinkle

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    Agree. Hate to think this way, but I hope kelan can give up on the nba thing relatively quickly.


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  15. fdr

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    The NBA is getting ready to tip off in about a week and teams are finishing up their abbreviated preseason schedules. The Pacers have played three games and I've watched just about every minute. Several Pacers have played well, but there's one name in particular on every fan's lips, and he has a small connection to Butler -- Edmond Sumner. Sumner missed a significant portion of the season last year recovering from the torn ACL he sustained in January 2017 against St. John's. He did return at the end of the season to play a handful of games for the Pacers G-League affiliate, the Fort Wayne Mad Ants. Coming into the current season, Sumner was sort of an unknown and it was unclear if he'd spend any time with the Pacers (he originally signed a two-way contract), especially since the Pacers solidified their roster in the offseason and have good depth. He's played really, really well so far, shooting 13-18 from the field (including 2-4 from three) and scoring 33 points in 50 minutes of play. He's even been active on the defensive side of the ball with five steals, but he's perhaps been a bit too aggressive -- he fouled out against the Rockets in 19 minutes. He has great positional size and gets to the rim pretty easily, which we unfortunately saw too often at Butler. His shot is still a bit goofy, but it's not terrible. Barring injuries to players above him on the depth chart, I'm not sure he'll get significant minutes this year in the NBA. But Nate McMillan clearly sees some promise and I think Sumner could potentially be an impact bench player in the future.

    P.S. The Pacers have several players that lined up against the Bulldogs during their college days. Doug McDermott, Sean's cousin, was signed in the offseason. And of course they have Victor Oladipo, now reborn in Indianapolis and playing like an absolute madman (47 points in 53 minutes so far this preseason, on 15-28 shooting from the field and 7-15 from three, also 10-10 from the stripe).
     
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  16. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    If Sumner is going to see the court, he's probably going to steal minutes away from Aaron Holiday. I know Sumner is 6'6 but my guess is Evans wold probably get most of the minutes at the 3 & Oladipo has the 2 locked down.

    I haven't seen any of the preseason games, but Holiday looked damn good during the summer league. Sumner is supposedly having a good preseason. Looks like we may finally have some solid depth in the backcourt no matter what unfolds.
     
  17. fdr

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    Right now they're starting the same five as last year, so I expect Tyreke will come off the bench and will spend a significant amount of time handling the ball as the primary playmaker of the second unit. He and Sabonis have been running a deadly pick-and-roll. Cory Joseph will obviously handle the ball, as well.

    I think Sumner plays better off the ball and, given his athleticism and relative lack of shooting ability, fits better as a slasher. He can share the floor with Holiday. They might compete for minutes, but not necessarily at the same position.

    Holiday has played pretty well in the preseason. He's a really polished offensive player and will be able to score right away. However, like most rookies, he has a long way to go on defense. He's had trouble staying in front of guards that are second and third-string guys. I think he has the potential to be a Darren Collison-like player, but maybe with a little more potent offensive skillset that can score from all three levels.
     
  18. ArizonaXU

    ArizonaXU New Member

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    Kelan Martin will play in the nba. Look at Briscoe out of Kentucky. He went to Estonia last year, mvp, championship, and now he is making 2-3M in Orlando. It can be done.


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  19. fdr

    fdr Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    It can be done, but it's incredibly rare. Isaiah Briscoe is the only example I can think of at the moment. That being said, I hope Kelan makes a roster some day.
     
  20. LA-OC-IE

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    3-5 after almost letting another slip away tonight. Stephenson has been great, although he hardly saw the floor tonite. The early suspensions of Rondo and Ingram have expected rotations out of whack. McGee has been incredible on both ends. Zo and Kuz struggles on D continue. Harts 3 pt shooting is getting better. LBJ is LBJ. Insane 4 assists in first qtr.

    Lake show is on its way. For the first time in 5-6 years its getting better.

    Hart vs Brunson matchup tonight was interesting. Mum is the word on loudmouth Lavar. Go Lakers!
     
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