Recruiting Notes 4.0 (The Summer of LaVall)

Discussion in 'Butler Recruiting' started by the_speakers_lab, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. estar20dawg

    estar20dawg Well-Known Member

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    WE hear only what the media tells us. If we don't cultivate relationships early we lose. We aren't Villanova that can target 4 or 5 people and get them. So it's our staff's job to reach out and connect with as many kids and families as we can to establish relationships. you never know which kid is going to grow or figure things out. Look at Mark Smith two years ago. Jaxson Hayes last year. Ja Morant, Dylan Windler. Gordon Hayward... As someone who has coached D1, my best recruit was a 2 star kid who had zero D1 offers except my own and just finished up his collegiate career as a two time All-American. He was a late bloomer, saw the potential and took a chance. If you set your sights on just a handful of kids and you aren't at an elite school who pulls every kid you want, you have to always keep your eyes open. That's how you stay employed and succeed. Nobody here, including the the staff thinks a 2 star kid at this early in the recruiting season is suddenly being prioritized. It's a kid whose Dad went to Butler and at 6'9 can shoot the 3, who still has a whole year and change to develop who maybe takes a giant leap. You don't want to keep the relationship ongoing???? I think you need to stay off social media recruiting and just trust the coaching staff knows a little more at recruiting than twitter and instagram.
     
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  2. willisbrown

    willisbrown Well-Known Member

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    I am not one of the prospect following types nor am I on instagram, thank god. And I surely do not go into followers and followings. But if it's brought up and it's concerning, I'll have an opinion. I'm only on twitter social media wise, and I follow bball writers and a couple former butler players. I think the only current one I follow is Tuck. I def don't follow high school kids. No thanks. But if it is brought to discussion, from a social media site to this board, I'll comment. Or if I see something from a writer that is relevant to the program, I'll bring it up. Good bad or indifferent.
     
  3. BoyGeoff

    BoyGeoff Active Member VIP Member

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    We definitely needed / need a senior transfer. I thought at guard that could shoot it and where we need depth just in case. Even a defense only guy or rebounder. I don’t see how this deters 2020 recruiting. The spot is still there. Thought we should have gone hard after any grad transfer with some skill set that could contribute this year. Anybody sitting a year, different story. Would have to be a solid + player for that.


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  4. Bulldogs260

    Bulldogs260 Well-Known Member

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    Relationships take awhile to build. Why are you panicking? Someone posted on one of the threads like 20% of 2020s are committed we have 1 of them who’s highly rated and was overlooked by butler fans IMO. Plenty of time


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  5. Bulldogs260

    Bulldogs260 Well-Known Member

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  6. ButlerGoalie

    ButlerGoalie Well-Known Member

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    I played in the state finals one year in Ironwood, Michigan. That's a looooooooong drive from Detroit. We got smoked in the semi-finals by a team from Iron Mountain. It wasn't pretty.
     
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  7. NCJon

    NCJon Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I know you're the King of Hyperbole, but I can't let this statement slide, yet again.

    First, I was the one who raised the idea of pocketing a scholarship and my view was absolutely in the minority around here.

    Second, the point I was making was not a scholarship should be pocketed or that the staff should not aggressively pursue transfers. It was that with two open scholarships, I thought the staff could be and should be careful about who they brought in. If that meant that one of the scholarships got left open, so be it.

    Some of you were acting like it would be an indictment of the coaches if one didn't get used - that is until Smits committed and folks attention shifted elsewhere.
     
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  8. willisbrown

    willisbrown Well-Known Member

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    Trust me, you weren't the only one. I'm not sure I get where you are getting that you were in the minority...I was getting all kinds of grief (and really not from you) about wanting to aggressively pursue a guard transfer. I was hit with plenty of pocketing takes and that 2020 is the goal. I promise it exists.

    Either way, I got plenty of flak for my opinion there. And I stand by using it was/still is the right course of action. Not just assuming 2020 is going to be amazing. And, who knows...maybe they go hard after Barcello?
     
  9. Ignatius J. Reilly

    Ignatius J. Reilly Well-Known Member

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    Willis, we've talked privately about this, and you know we disagree on a lot of stuff, but I think it's just frustrating to folks that you (admittedly) say you live for drama and then also say you're taking flak. Right? If you're gonna live for drama, then you can't be mad that people call you out a lot.

    Maybe you're not mad, but I think that's the central tension here.
     
  10. fdr

    fdr Well-Known Member

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  11. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member

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  12. willisbrown

    willisbrown Well-Known Member

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    I cannot handle a dude with that name on this team. I just...I just can't do it.
     
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  13. the_speakers_lab

    the_speakers_lab Well-Known Member

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    Anyone going to Carmel, HSE, or Westfield this weekend for the recruiting event? (I think it's Westfield?) @Jared Grubbs @Lukas Harkins
     
  14. Lukas Harkins

    Lukas Harkins Well-Known Member

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    I’m up home in Wisconsin at the moment so I will not be.


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  15. pjohnsto2003

    pjohnsto2003 Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of the Chuck Norris potato bag comment. I’m admittedly giggling.


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  16. pjohnsto2003

    pjohnsto2003 Well-Known Member

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    Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handy


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  17. Bulldogs260

    Bulldogs260 Well-Known Member

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  18. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member

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  19. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member

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  20. bumba

    bumba Well-Known Member

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    If we're going to get involved, the line will be long for Colbert.
     

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