Agree. This is not an “ordinary” down year as you could argue 11-12 and 13-14 were, for the reasons you point out. Help was on the way for 12-13 in Clark and Dunham. Rose was out in 13-14 and our coach was in a bad way. This year? The freshmen are promising and we can expect they’ll be better next year, but we can’t fairly expect a jump big enough to make an awful team good, especially when the two best players are seniors and likely gone next year (from what I hear). If this team was rated 70-80 this year, with all these freshmen? Then yeah, I feel ok about things. It’s not. Butler is currently rated 131 in kenpom. That’s abysmal. The worst team its had in the last 25 seasons finished 145 (2004-2005). This may end up being the worst Butler team since Clinton’s first term. That’s not “normal”. And the talent isn’t that bad. Things aren’t good under the hood.