Discussion in 'Butler Basketball' started by Lukas Harkins, Apr 15, 2020.
1 - $2 - Nored
2 - $1 - Barlow
3 - $2 - McDermott
4 - $5 - Hayward
5 - $5 - Howard
I'm all about this "Taking Nored over AT is a mistake" take!
I thought you had to obey by the rules of taking the player in the column they are assigned.
Wow - I am one of two people each on Thomas Jackson and Andrew Chrabascz. Those are two of my all-time favorites.
Completely agree on Mr Sonbog’s Veasley take. How he’s not even listed is beyond me.
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Howard - 5
Hayward - 5
McD - 2
TJ - 2
AT - 1
AT can defend the two capably. The whole front court can shoot the 3. TJ can shoot. Ish. Everyone but TJ can play multiple positions. Players who I hated to leave off: everyone.
What about the best CHEAPEST team available?
PG - AT $1
SG - Rosie $3
SF - McDermott $2
PF - Sweet Pete $1
C - Wideman $1
I think this team would be a fun. What lack of shooting the G's have from outside, SF/PF make up in spades. Defensively, Wideman and McDermott would have to make up for Pete. I actually think this starting 5 would be an NCAA tourney team.
Your team would make Creighton look like it doesn't shoot enough 3's!!! I could see your lineup putting up 100 on some people, if McD, Campbell and Hayward were all hitting!
Howard was in too much foul trouble during his BU career. Great player though and amazing porn stache.
You seriously think Gordon could play the 4? He was like 120 pounds soaking wet his sophomore year.
He played the 4 his entire college career...
He guarded Draymond Green in the Final Four
And DID NOT foul him at the end ;-)
He added significant weight in between his 1st and 2nd year.
It pained me to not include him because he is my favorite all time Bulldog (and probably the one I got to know best while a student), but this is why I couldn't include him. For a max $ investment, I needed a guy I could count on to be on the court 30+ minutes night in and night out.
Senior Kelan vs. Sophomore Hayward is an interesting debate.
I took Hayward though because my lineup was AT-Mack-Rosey-Hayward-Wideman, and I already know him and Mack can co-exist as top scorers on a team that can make a title run.
Green was sloppy and overweight as a Senior, and complained about several calls that night like he was already in the NBA.
Green still went for 12-6-6 - that's not exactly Gordo shutting anybody down. If he makes his free throws that night, we lose.
Don't disagree, but imho he played the 4 because he was 6'8 in the Horizon League. That was just a mismatch. Think about the HL years when we had guys like Polk playing the 4-5 and they were like 6'6 or something. His most effective position (just my opinion guys) was on the wing shooting from deep and pulling up to drive towards the goal.
Clarke ($4), AT ($1), Hainje ($3), Hayward ($5) and Woods ($2).
Since I put in more thought into this than I should have, I feel somewhat compelled to outline some of my reasoning. First of all, although it was very tempting to include him because he only costs $1, I don't think Pete Campbell belongs in there. Everyone else was a starter. Pete didn't even start for his own team one-third of the time. My quirk and I get other people selecting him. Sean is another one that was tempting because of his value (only $2), but I ended up not taking him because I remember how he got abused when he guarded a 4 and since a skinny Hayward is the 4 on my team, I needed someone who could slide over in the event Gordon's man was dominating him. That's where Hainje comes in. You younger guys probably don't even know who he is, but don't let his size (6'6") fool you. The man was solid muscle. And nasty. I really wanted Cornette at center, but couldn't make it work.
Interesting lineup. Clarke can’t guard anyone, AT can guard 1-3, I have no clue who Hainje is, and both Hayward and Woods can pretty much guard 1-5, so a lot of defensive flexibility.
Dude, you don't know Hainje? WOW, I must be OLD!!!!!!!!!!! He played late 90's early 2000's. Averaged 15 points as a senior, and was POY in the Horizon. Solid build.
You're not old, just more experienced! Hainje ended his career with almost 1,400 points. Was a contemporary of Cornette and Vall, and part of the group that laid the 43-10 first half beating on Wake in 2001.
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